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Guest: Camille Walker

Release Date: 11/14/2022

Welcome to Trulyfit the online fitness marketplace connecting pros and clients through unique fitness business software.

Steve Washuta: Welcome to Trulyfit. Welcome to the jewelry fit podcast where we interview experts in fitness and health to expand our wisdom and wealth. I’m your host, Steve Washuta, co-founder of truly fit and author of Fitness Business 101.

On today’s episode, I speak with Camille Walker, you can find everything about her via Instagram or her website. It’s the same handle Camille walker.co. She has a podcast called the call the CEO podcast, she has coaching programs, she blogs before blogging was even cool. She has been blogging for over a dozen years, I believe, from parenting to business to finance and budgeting to lifestyle and travel recipes. You name it, she blogs about it.

She has fantastic insights about how to manage our schedules and manage our time. And being a busy entrepreneur a podcaster. And working in let’s say the writing industry as a blogger, how do you manage all those things at the same time, I think it’s really important for us as health and fitness professionals and even the general population to kind of take a step back. Be introspective, see what we’re good at, see what we’re not good at, and learn how to manage our days better so that we can be more productive at work or more productive with our clients or with our family.

It was a great conversation with no further ado, here’s Camille Walker. And I thank you so much for joining the truly foot podcast, why don’t you give my listeners a background on who you are? And what exactly it is that you do day to day?

Camille Walker  

Yeah, thank you for having me. My name is Camille Walker, I am a podcaster. I have a podcast called Call me CEO where I share stories of mothers building businesses and how they manage to handle that. Well, it’s a healthy way.

And I also am a blogger, I’ve been doing that for the last 12 years, where I share family content of every kind if you’ve ever been on Pinterest, that is the mecca of where my traffic comes from. So we share a lot of recipes, travel, parenting, and motherhood topics, in general, are parenting topics. And I’m also a business coach. So I help mothers build virtual assistant businesses as a job that they can do from home.

And I also help busy entrepreneurs hire those entrepreneurs as my graduates who are looking for someone they can trust and help them alleviate the load. Because so many of us are just so busy, but more than anything, I am a wife and a mother of four, I have children ages 1411, eight, and six.

It’s my favorite thing that I do. So I love being a mom. And I think my biggest message is that you can be a mom and love being a mom and also pursue a passion outside of that. Taking care of yourself having adventure and friendships, and also maybe even starting that thing that you’ve always wanted to do.

Steve Washuta: That’s fantastic. And I have a lot of thoughts in my mind after that intro, we’re going to talk mainly about how you just finish that up about people being busy and how you manage multiple things at a time being a parent and being an entrepreneur. But I first want to go back to something you said because I don’t have Pinterest. I don’t know anything about Pinterest.

But I recently did come across an article randomly and must have been targeting me because I don’t have it that you can really get a lot of SEO if done properly through Pinterest. How would you do that? If you were let’s say a fitness professional? How would you manage like a Pinterest account? Oh, my

Camille Walker  

goodness, there are so many opportunities available on Pinterest, Pinterest just announced that they’re opening for commerce as well so that people can start shopping the product through video as well as through images.

And so that’s a new thing that making it shoppable in a different way, not just a link that extends somewhere else but actual that actually the platform itself. But Pinterest is honestly one of those things that it is put together in a way that it is driven by SEO. So if there are keywords that you’re wanting to be to attract to yourself, you can say maybe you’re working with core fitness, or maybe you’re looking for cardio or strength training or diet regimes or whatever the thing is.

And you can actually go to Pinterest and use those keywords to see what pops up first, to see what your competition would be. But also you can get really niche-specific about really niche things. So say that it’s like core work for women over 40. That’s something that you could be searchable for. And use that in your board description and your PIN description for people to actually find very specifically what they want to find on Pinterest.

Steve Washuta: Well, that’s great information and, you know, talking about Pinterest and the social media, sometimes it’s overwhelming. You have YouTube, you have Instagram, your Facebook, you have new things popping up every day. If you’re an entrepreneur, and you’re let’s say running a podcast like you are and you’re a parent, you have all these social medias, you think you have to keep up to what are some tips and tricks that you have either personally, anecdotally for yourself or that you give other people to say, Hey, this is how you kind of manage all these things and bringing them in so that you’re not overwhelmed.

Camille Walker  

Yeah. Well, you know, I think the first thing to start with is don’t try to be a master of everything. Start with something that you really love one or two. and really gain an understanding of the way that the algorithm works. And listen, they’re always changing. So if you can invest in a website, or a podcast, or an email list, those are things that will never change.They will be your own in a way that other platforms will always change. And so it’s not for the, it’s not for the weary of heart, because you really have to be willing to pivot.

I consider myself an OG in that I’ve been a blogger, before blogging was profitable, like it was something that you kind of have to learn and adapt and be willing to change with the tides.

However, I’ve highly suggest that you maximize your reach, by bringing people onto your team who are better at doing the thing than you are doing. And that is why I am such an advocate of hiring and expanding your team so that you can excel at what it is that you do personally.

And I think that that takes a lot of evaluation of your skillset, as well as what you find, you know, a real desire and interest in, and then those things that maybe you’re proficient in. But you wouldn’t be as fast or as good as someone else or something you just hate.

Those are the things that you want to hire out first, right? So that is where a virtual assistant, I feel like it is the way to grow an online business, if you’re looking to reach outside of your own scope of what you see in your every day or maybe a social media you’re not as comfortable with hiring on a team is super, super helpful.

And that’s the way that I’ve been able to expand and grow my business is I find people who are better at doing the things even though I’ve done them for years and years, I’ve trained them and then let them take it or I’ve hired people who are even better, way better than me at doing, say Pinterest, for example.

That’s something I used to do for years. I have had I had one person manage that for about seven years. And then I realized that there are new things like pin ideas, which is like images that you can turn into video. And there are trending video pin ideas every single week. I don’t have in the bandwidth to research what those pin trends are every single week.

But guess what, I just found someone who I can hire who does that research and can make it so that that piece of that pie that brings so much traffic to my website, and word for a fitness professional or anyone else that is available, you have to find the right person.

Steve Washuta: Yeah, well said you have to work on your business, not in your business. I think the hardest part is that first step, because typically, at least from our perspective of fitness professionals, you know, time is our greatest asset. We fill that time with people working one on one. And then at some point, when you get really good at what you do, all of your hours are booked up.

I always tell people that I mentor you and fitness professionals at some point, you have to take a front-end hit, whether that’s you taking a week off, or whether that’s you just canceling your Friday appointments so that you can step back, you can re-evaluate, you can hire people to do the easier things maybe that’s a junior coach to take on your other clients. Maybe that is like you set a virtual assistant to handle some marketing aspect, I have three virtual assistants that I use for various things at any given time.

So I think it’s it’s really difficult to do. And also, it’s a personality thing. There are some people who just I’m one of them, we don’t have that personality, I want to handle everything, I think I could do everything better. And that’s maybe that’s not wrong. But I don’t have the bandwidth, the same term that you just used before to be able to do that.

So why not focus my energy and efforts on the things that either a bringing the most value, b bring the most value to me that I enjoy doing, or C are setting me up for long term success in my business, and then sort of pulling those other things off. And I think that’s a difficult thing for some people to do. Just taking that first step. Now you have a program that helps people get to this sort of virtual assistant type business model, you want to go ahead and explain that.

Camille Walker  

Yeah, so it’s funny, because when I went okay, I get three questions that I have for the past decade. Number one, how do I make friends? A lot of us are lonely looking for connection. Number two, how do I make money from home? And number three? How do I offload all of my overwhelm? I have too much that I’m handling. And so for that for at least question number two and three, I thought man, if I were to start a business from home right now, it wouldn’t be blogging.

Blogging is changed in a way that unless you’re in it, and you have really established something, it’s hard to start fresh. But as a virtual assistant, there are so many different demands and needs that people have as business owners, that many people who have that skill set are at home and could work that into their schedule. So on the flip side of that what you’re referring to is how to actually get someone to take that leap of bringing someone onto their team with trust and taking the step of expanding their business and their minds. In that way, that is something that I have coached people with.

Because honestly, most often, when people have come to me and say, I’ve been thinking about getting someone, I thought about it for last six months, you know, or a year.

I’ll always, always when I start talking to them, typically they’ve been needing one, as long as they’ve been thinking about getting one, but it’s just getting to the place of acknowledging that and being okay with that.

Also, part of that can be fear, And part of that can be a sense of like loss of control or trust, which I get it. It’s your baby, like your business and what you do, and it represents you. And so that’s where I’m matching up my graduates from my program that I personally vet, and then connecting them and coaching them through that has been monumental, like.

It’s I wish there were more of me because honestly, there’s such a demand for that piece, that I feel like businesses have so much growth potential if business owners and entrepreneurs allow themselves to step into that place of fear to allow themselves to grow.

Steve Washuta: Yeah. And coming back to the other side, being a virtual assistant, I think. I’ll give a quick anecdote here. I wrote a book, it’s right behind me a fitness business one on one. And some prior to like getting it published, I had a few different editors going through it. And I paid an editor, let’s say through Upwork, to look through it, who was a former English teacher, and I’m sure they made a lot more money off of those, you know, whatever, 20 hours of editing my book than they would, you know, if you broke down what they were making as a high school English teacher for 20 hours. So there are so many professions now that you can do online to use your skill set.

And I think there is a maybe a misnomer that oh, a virtual assistant is just somebody like in the Philippines who’s like, doing data sheets for me. Now there’s, there’s high level jobs, whether that’s on Upwork. Are you using your skill set to be able to work through different channels in the in the internet, industry and AI? Is there any jobs specifically that you think are maybe not known about are ones that you push your clients to?

Camille Walker  

Yeah, that’s a really good question. I think that there are three main areas that I see the most demand for right now. Number one being community development and social media, whether that’s, you know, answering DMS, responding to comments, engaging with other people’s accounts, so that they can grow, that could also be on Facebook, if you have like a Facebook page or group community that you want to create a community feel around. And that takes time, you know, so you have to have someone that you feel can portray yourself in your image well.

So the community is a big piece of that. The next is digital marketing and way of digital art. So if that’s helping with content creation, and scheduling, that’s another piece that a lot of people really need help with.

And the third most common is admin type work, where it’s, you know, customer service, email management, maybe if you have product or different things like that it’s helping with returns or reach outreach, if you have a podcast and you are looking to expand your reach and your growth that way, those are probably the top three that I see most common.

But what’s really interesting is that many of my students have gone on to work in professional offices that you might not always imagine. So I’ve had someone who has gone on to work in a dental office, one with a plastic surgeon, I’ve had another with a real estate agency, you know, and so it doesn’t have to be an online business only that can have that virtual assistant work done.

Because there are so many things that can be done from home now. And I think because of Demmick.

It’s opened people’s eyes and minds to how they can expand their business without having to bring in a traditional employee.

Steve Washuta: I also think some of those jobs you just named, there are people who are great at them, and they don’t know that they’re graded them, right. So it could be like I have honestly like DM like a 20 year old before.

I’m 37 and said, Hey, listen, I love what you do in X y&z part of the social media, can you help me this person had no idea what they were doing was special or different? And maybe it wasn’t maybe maybe this is what everyone was doing and his particular circle, but for me, it was really good.

It was better than anyone was doing in my circle. So I said, Hey, I’m willing to pay you he wasn’t even looking for a job. So I think there is a it’s recognizing that we have skill sets that are sometimes unknown to us. And maybe taking that feedback from someone like you a coach or family members to say like oh, hey, we really liked this.

This about you. I was talking about this in the fitness industry started turn on here a little bit, but there’s so many times where people don’t take advantage of building their niche around what they’re best at.

So you’ll see somebody who’s like an expert at whatever, like some bodyweight movements and they always get these compliments on these bodyweight movements they’re doing in the gym from their clients, but it’s like, Okay, well then use that to your advantage.

Build a specialized bodyweight course that you upcharge for, you know, You have to really like take in the information about what you’re good at, take the compliments and turn them into a financial win.

Camille Walker  

I love that. I think I think you’re right in that, And a lot of times the special skill set that we have, may not even be right in front of our face where we recognize either what it is we can sell or teach people, but also what we could do to help other people in way of building our own service.

And so oftentimes, something I will encourage people to do is ask your three to five closest friends or family, what do you think I’m really good at?

Because I think so often, we take for granted something that may come to us naturally, that we don’t always think that that is something that you could monetize, or that you think sticks out.

So listening to clients, and the people that know you and love you best, I think is huge insight. I love that advice.

Steve Washuta: Yeah. And that’s that is, you know, I echo those thoughts that that you just piggybacked on. And I think people just don’t do it. Maybe it’s that we don’t take compliments, well, I know I don’t, and you just kind of let them roll off your back.

But eventually, it’s important to build your skill set around that. And I talked about that in fitness.

There are typically two personalities, you have a what I call direct, and demonstrative, you have the people who are very science-based, they can look at your body, Camille, and be like, well, she has knee valgus.

This is going on. We can work on this, and more of a sort of a physical therapist-esque viewpoint. then you have trainers who are very bold, and they’re affable, and have really great personalities, and they can put on a show.

I say, Well, if that’s your personality, you’re better in group fitness. That’s where you’re going to make your money you gotta put on the show, you gotta be an extra trainer.

And if you’re somebody with an eye for the little things, well, then maybe you should go work on a one on one fashion and really help people, you know, get towards their goals.

But there’s a space for everybody. You just have to know your overall skill sets and in any industry, and I’m sure that’s the same with with your clients.

Camille Walker  

100%. Yeah, I think that it’s so often that we just it reevaluating where you are every six months, I think is a great practice of where am I in my goals of where I want to be?

And how am I using 80% of my time to really do the things that make a difference, because that you know, that 8020 Where it’s like, so often, we just do the 20% That’s actually like moving the needle or making a difference in our business.

And it’s really easy to get lost in the minutia. Rather than those things that really matter, though, that 20%. So I think just doing a check and balance every six months or even sooner is a really good idea to take a look at what’s working and what’s not.

Steve Washuta: Let’s talk about balancing all of the different things that someone like you or I have to balance, if you’re on a podcast, you have a business most most of us I’m sure you do have multiple businesses, or at least multiple sides to a business, you have children, I have one I have a 16 month old girl.

And you know, that’s it’s a lot to manage, including keeping yourself, you know, healthy and sort of from a both a physical and a psychological perspective. What do you do to manage your day to make sure that you don’t get overwhelmed personally?

Camille Walker  

Yeah, you know, I think one of the number one things that really helped me is to create a system for number one, knowing what I need to do to fill up my cup first, as we hear this 100 times 100. But it’s so important to move your body.

For me, I talk a lot to my audience about movement, whatever that movement is that brings you joy, and lets you to feel a sense of equilibrium within yourself, but then also to have systems with home and business.

What are the things that you do those little micro habits that stack upon each other, that help you to save time in your day.

So take for example, when I am getting my kids off to school, I’m going to give you a motherhood tip, and then we can go into business.

But one thing that’s really helped me as a mom is that I do, I guess we’ll say a debrief of what’s happening that day with my kids. I do it the night before, and I do it the morning of so I’ll say we get in the car this morning.

And we did it today. So it’s something that just it’s what we do, we’ll get in the car and I’ll say, Okay, today’s Tuesday, what happens on Tuesday, and they’ll help rehearse this with me, oh, Tuesday, Jane has orchestra she’s carrying her cello, which means I have to pick you up from school. But there’s an extra caveat today.

Jackson, my 14 year old has a doctor’s appointment at four o’clock, which is right when his NHL ends, which is a national academic League, the nerd club is what they call it.

So I discussed with them, would you rather walk home today? Or would you rather come with me and have to sit in the waiting room with Jackson while he’s in his appointment? And that’s a very short span of time that is different from the typical day. But it’s to rehearse what is going on? And how are we going to make this happen as a team.

And I found that more often than not communication, whether it’s in business or with your kids, if you can rehearse with them, what’s going on here, what their concerns are and then troubleshoot together. My kids decided today that I was My daughter said.

Well, you know, I’d really just prefer to come with you and wait in the waiting room and I’ll help take care of Jensen, the youngest, the six-year-old, where my almost nine-year-old said, I prefer to walk home, and I’ll wait the hour at home. And that’s what they decided.

And as long as the we know, that that’s like, what is happening, we’re all good. That doesn’t always go perfectly.

But we also do some grounding in the in the morning, and we’ll say a prayer as we drive to school, which is a little unconventional, and maybe people would say, weird, but I like for us. It’s a really good grounding thing to do.

We review the day we say a prayer, I dropped them off, and we go about our day, when I had kids at home, I very much had to set up a routine of knowing when my pockets of time for productivity were and when my family time was.

So this really comes down to compartmentalizing. First of all, knowing when you’re the most productive, is it morning, night, or night late at night? Is it pockets in the in the day. For me, like naptime was a huge opportunity to get some things done.

It didn’t mean. I got a lot of things done. During that time, it was very much pockets of time.

But if you’re juggling different things, you just have to work with time blocking and setting time aside ahead of time, I could go on about this forever.

But I’m going to stop right there. So you can respond to even that little ball.

Steve Washuta: I love it all I love, I want to comment on the last part of it. Because that’s that’s kind of where your ideas fuse with mine.

And that is understanding yourself, which we’ve this is sort of the thesis of the conversation here helps so much, I am a morning person, I will wake up at 530 My daughter does too.

But I would wake up at 530 Anyway, and I can handle everything in the morning where my wife is not so no big deal.

Dad gets everything ready in the morning, dad gets baby ready, breakfast ready, cleans, does whatever.

But at 6pm, I turned to a pumpkin, my brain does not work anymore. I just I cannot function. So then there’s a role reversal. And dad gets to relax. And then Mom gets to take over bedtime and do those sorts of things. That’s no different than a business model. Right?

When you know, when you know that you can handle something and you’re better at that or it’s easier for you or it’s more efficient, let’s use that term, then go ahead and take advantage of your skill sets that are going to make the company or in this case, the family more efficient.

I think that’s that goes sometimes unnoticed because people have to be introspective and say, if something’s not working, maybe you’re not really that good at it.

Maybe there’s a better way we can go about handling this. I think just like you said, understanding time, and being honest with yourself, what can I do?

What can I not do? And you know, another small thing is I like to cook, I don’t have to think about it that much. Meaning like i My wife is less picky than I am.

So it’s much easier for me to be the cook. Because she doesn’t care. She’ll eat anything. So it’s just it’s easier for the family of five to cook.

So I just think just evaluating the family and how that all works is how you set the schedule and how you have a schedule that is productive and efficient.

Camille Walker  

Yeah, oh, I love that. I think that I love that you said you turn into a pumpkin because that’s what we’ve always said about my mom. past eight o’clock. She just there’s no hope like you’re she’s done. But I love that you said that.

I think that so often we can get wrapped up in what we think things are supposed to look like. You know. like, oh, well, this is the man is supposed to do this. The woman is supposed to do this. I’ll be honest. I think my husband was more of a traditional mindset. It’s taken some time, we’ve been married 18 years.

I think it’s taken some time for us both to figure out how those roles can morph and change. Especially as you develop and grow into your family and your roles. Also, we just had this conversation last night is sometimes as the wife and the mother. It can be hard for me to let go of things that I’m used to being done a certain way.

We said, you know, just like a partnership. If someone if you hand something off to someone say cooking or laundry or whatever the thing is, you need to let them do the thing and not micromanage the thing.

And I think that that goes for business and for a relationship. Yes, keep communication going of what’s working and maybe some things you want to tweak. But really being open to having it look however the heck you want. Like it’s, it’s up to you to create that balance of what feels best to you.

And I think that with that, for us as a couple and for myself and my mental health, it’s been really important for us to support each other in getting out and doing the things that we love individually, not just you know, at home with the family or with the kids or whatever, but my husband going to some games or golfing or different things like that. But also allowing me to go rappelling or you know out for a girls trip away or whatever it is.

I just think that so often it can be something that you want to hold tighter to but you’ll find the more you let go is when things can really grow and thrive and that love is reciprocated?

Steve Washuta: Yeah, I echo those thoughts. And, you know, going back to what you said earlier kind of combined with this that I think it was the first question of the three you’re asked the most is about friendships. And I think we just live in a different time. People don’t get out as much as they didn’t need anymore. I know there’s like, at one point, my wife was on an app when we had moved cities I forget what the app was called the basically was like, Tinder for moms to meet up.

Yeah. We are, you know, we’re in a different world. Now. It is hard to find friends, it’s hard to find people, it’s hard to get out and do different things. not to mention, you know, COVID got thrown in the mix. So if you were somebody who was maybe starting to facilitate that, and then that got shut down, maybe you just said, it’s not for me anyway, I’m just going to hang inside and spend time with my family or, or my TV.

So I think it is, it is great for, for, for the full spectrum of your business and your life. To have this. I would call it like this leisure outlet that a lot of people just don’t have anymore.

Camille Walker  

Yes, you know. I am trying to think who it was, I was listening to the book, Shoe Dog that is the creation of and the story of Nike and how it was built. And what I love about his story is that there were so many failures, that came along with the successes that you never hear about, you know.

It’s something that I would have never heard about. But so often, what I thought was really cool about his story is that he created community culture for adventure, and friendship.

And I think that that is essential to our health. It’s not just about movement, it’s about people.

And that if you can incorporate a team that is a part of your shoe, dog, your Nike team, that you will succeed because I think that if your business if your physical health isn’t in a good place, your business health won’t be in a great place.

And that’s something that he attested to in that book was that every successful, really successful, truly successful person that he knew, was taking care of their physical health, which I mean,

I’m preaching to the choir here, because your audience, you’re all super healthy. So I just think that it’s I love what you’re all doing because I feel like it is essential to our mental and, and our physical well-being.

Steve Washuta: It is but you know, to play devil’s advocate here, it can go too far.

So what that is I talk a lot about how, you know, we need to make sure that vanity is sort of a secondary goal. Just like you said, In the community and the health aspect. It used to be primary but it sort of got pushed back.

Now, people are more in tune with like, Okay, I’m gonna go to the gym, but I did I really go to the gym unless I took 50 pictures of myself at the gym and posted them on the phone.

So it’s like, well, you know, at some point that needs to sort of take the backseat to more of the kind of the health and community aspect.

And that’s why, you know, I’m not someone who does CrossFit. I’m not someone who does an Olympic lifting in general.

But I found that so great because they built a community around people who liked to do the same thing. I like to work out together.

I think that’s unfortunately, there’s a lot of fitness now.

That’s, that’s too based around vanity, and I hope it gets back to more things like, Hey, you want to go repel, you want to go hiking, you want to go play basketball for two hours, or you want to go play soccer with all of your friends on the weekend, even though you’re in your mid-30s, and you haven’t played in maybe 15 years, that’s great like this, this is more of the movement, we need not just go to the weight room lifting purely for vanity related reasons.

Camille Walker  

Yeah, it’s an I’m gonna tell you one story I saw really quick this morning of a girl who was prepping to lift a heavy bar.

She had her earbuds in.. And she said in the caption, this is all that her real said is I just want to make a friend at the gym.

I was like, and someone wrote with a comment below, then take out your earbuds and put a smile on your face.

Because in the video, she’s kind of mean mug and a little bit. But I thought man, we all want a friend.

Like we all want to feel that connection. And and that humanity have a feeling the strength of community. And so I love that you say that. I think that that’s true that easy to get wrapped up in any one thing. It could be anything. But really I think all of us are craving that human connection that we all need.

Steve Washuta:  I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been at the gym and I saw I kickbox so I’ll be hitting the bag.

And either during my sessions hitting the bag, or afterward, somebody taps me on the shoulder and they’re like, Oh, you do more Thai and then we they start talking and they just like, you know, they couldn’t wait to kind of have that conversation and vice versa.

Like I see people hitting the back. I want to go up. I want to talk a little bit about Muay Thai and it’s lost. Unfortunately, with the, with some of the lifting community that they don’t have that, that they do other earbuds in and they do look sort of.

I don’t wanna say mean but focus. Yeah, and I’m just going on and I’m doing my thing and you can’t talk to me and I And I don’t really know how to fix that. I don’t know if that’s a huge problem.

But I do think that, like, we’re talking about having some sort of outlet where that isn’t the case where you’re still doing the movement.

But it’s more in a friendly manner with a group, whether that’s kickboxing, or playing soccer or kickball on the weekends or something is is very important for both physical and psychological health.

So tell my audience where they can find more about you personally, whether that’s your Instagram account, or your website and your program, whether they want to work with you one on one, or they have questions just about all of the things you do from the blog to the podcasts and anything else want to plug.

Camille Walker  

Yeah, of course. Thank you for having me. Well, so my handle on Instagram is Camille walker.co, that ca m i l l e Wal ke r.co. That’s also my website. So Camille walker.co is the hub for my courses for my, my virtual assistant course there, as well as my podcast, call me CEO, and my blog.

And if you’re looking for a way to connect with your children, in a really awesome way, with the holidays coming up, I actually wrote a journal called time for us, which is a journal for parents and children to do together that you sit by side by side and you can do creative things and like inquisitive questions and everything else. So that’s really fun. It’s on Amazon just search time for us.

We would love to help coaches who are interested. I think there is so much potential in expanding your team.

If that’s something you need help with, or finding balance in parenting and business, I’m happy to help that as well.

Steve Washuta: I will link the website and the journal and the description. My guest today has been Camille Walker. Camille, thank you for joining us real quick podcast.

Camille Walker  

Thanks for having

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